Is "Ignore" (on the web) the same as "I already know this" (on the Android App)?

Hi @MemriseSupport & others,

Is "Ignore"on the web the same as “I already know” on the Android App?

I use “ignore” if I don’t want to learn a particular item or expression.

If I already know it, I know it will soon not reappear for a long time.

On the App however “already know” probably has the same effect as “ignore” but not obvious or correct.

To avoid ambiguity, could both web and App be renamed “Ignore or Already Known”.


And what does “Skip” do?


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Or both options to work differently.

See Ignored words become learned after unignoring them - #12 by DW7

Yes. Some very clever individual thought it was a good idea to change the wording, this happened like half a year ago or so.

I suppose this is all about taking care of the most important things first!

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Yes. … this happened like half a year ago or so.

Thanks, I assumed that, but it is not consistent.

But what does “Skip” do? Does it ignore it or just miss it out once/ the session?

Sorry, I overlooked that. I’m not using the web much, but there is a Skip-button in the Android app, too. There it will just do that: it will skip to the next item. As a consequence, you’ll be presented with the skipped item in your next session (talking about a review session here).

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Hi @DW7, echoing what Olaf said: yes, “Ignore” and “I already know this” have the same behaviour on Android and the website.

On iOS, “I already know this” grows the item to full-blown flower - but we’re looking to standardise the behaviour across all platforms.

Skip, will just move on to the next item.

Thanks for your patience while we optimise these behaviours.

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Wow, that’s a feature that I wish was available on Android too. On Android, “I already know this” will simply “ignore” an item. That is, on Android, you guys simply changed the name of the command, but didn’t change what it does. This leaves me speechless, but I guess I’m getting used to that.

I can only add that all these changes that have obviously been introduced without any need are a nightmare for us guys who are trying to help folks here on the forum.

I agree with Olaf, that would be so useful.

I remember a time when by typing “auto-grow” it was possible to grow straight to a flower on courses we were NOT a Creator or Contributor to. (But sadly you closed that work-around.)

By growing rather than ignoring, we get tested periodically (and more frequently if we don’t know it as well as we thought!).

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The solution is in this post.

Ignored words become learned after unignoring them - #13 by James_g_memrise

I’ve checked this out yesterday and today. It’s again somewhat Memrise-ishly implemented.

  • you navigate to a level within a course
  • you click the Flag as… button (translated from German, not sure how exactly this is in the English version)
  • (at this stage you don’t see whether or not you have actually learned the items on the list!)
  • you flag an item as known
  • you click the Ready button

You then go ahead and perform the same procedure as above, with the only difference being that you un-flag the previously flagged items instead.
When you’re done, nothing seems to have happened.

But: once you perform (probably any type of) a session (I did a review yesterday and a speed review today), the words that you flagged and un-flagged will be part of your then next review stream. When you review them, they will appear as fully learned but “faded” items (i.e. they need reviewing).
Reviewing them then will produce less points (today I got 35 or so per item during a speed review), but using this procedure you won’t have to go through 6 iterations in order to fully learn items that you want to see during reviews nonetheless.

I do like being able to finally “auto-learn” (or quickly learn) items again. This used to be possible only on the web and by utilizing a script, but, sadly, the “official” procedure - as much as I appreciate it! - is very cumbersome and not intuitive at all.

Also, currently, when you flag a word as “known”, you’ll never see it again, which, IMHO, is what it used to be: in fact you ignore an item.

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yes there is a bug on android that it won’t show as fully grown until you restart the app, this is because we moved faster on the backend and website than android could update the front end, but rest assured, it is fully grown when you unmark it as known and we will resolve that.
and yes, when you mark as known, you won’t see it again in lessons, because why would you want to.

Example 1: I’m learning Dutch. As a German, there’s a great bunch of words that I have either already seen of that are very similar in both languages. I don’t need to learn it (i. e. see it 6 times during two learning sessions), instead I’m fine with seeing it during review sessions.

Example 2: Even when I learned words in one course and they show up in another one, I’d still like to review them, but I don’t want to go through the hassle of learning them again.

For the two examples above, I used to utilize @cooljingle’s → Auto-learn script. Being a 90%+ Android user this meant that I had to use the web to make this work (which requires planning ahead), but the scroüt did allow me to flag a word as “learned” the second time I saw it during a learning session.

Other than in the two examples further above, I do see words that I definitely want to neither learn nor review, IOW, there’s words that I’d like to completely ignore.
For instance, after having worked through your 7 Dutch courses and a bunch of others, I definitely don’t need to learn “and” and “or”, but these are usually part of courses that teach the “most used x-thousand words” of Dutch (or any other language).

I don’t think this is what either of us want.

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