[Course Forum] Japanese 1-7 by Memrise

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(Jklingen9290) #1017

I took screenshots from every single card related exercise in one lesson that I did. As you can see, only one or two of the exercises have any sort of real randomness. Most of the are identical (the Japanese and the English) except for the word in question.

As an update to my original post, this does appear to be happening with Katakana and Hiragana cards (such as トイレ above) and also I see that furigana is stored with the cards which is good and should make this an easy fix


(𝕎) #1020

In Japanese 3: Level 23, At the Airport the word “visa” is translated as 「ビサ」. As far as I know it should be 「ビザ」 instead. The word also appears in the phrase 「ターミナルでは切符とビサを持っていなくてはいけません」.


(Zschuah) #1021

In Japanese 1 Level 4, “どんなところが好きですか?” is translated as “what do you like about it?”

I don’t really think this should be the correct translation? I’m not fluent in Japanese, but this sentence seems to mean “What kind of place do you like?”

Can someone who knows Japanese check on this?


(Kana) #1022

Thank you @jklingen9290 for the screenshots, this helps a lot!
Now our developers are aware of this, so it will be improved in the coming weeks!
Thank you for flagging it:)


(Kana) #1023

Hi @www42www,
I’m sorry there was a typo there! I have now corrected it, and if you log out and log in again, you should be able to see the changes as well.


(Kana) #1024

Hi @zschuah,
Thank you for learning on our new Japanese course! This is very exciting for us:)

ところ」can mean “a place (location)”, but it also commonly means “a part/an aspect of something”, and in this course context, it means the latter.

The previous item goes:
日本が好きです; I like Japan
and this item is a continuation of that, asking:
どんなところが好きですか?; what do you like about it (Japan)?

Similarly, you could say;
あなたの、そういうところが好き
to mean “that’s what I like about you”.

The meaning of 「ところ」 depends on context, and to say “What kind of place do you like?”, you could also say the same, but I actually would personally say どんな場所が好きですか?to add clarity.

Hope this helps!
Kana


(Zschuah) #1025

@KanaTsumoto Your explanation is very clear! Thank you for your help :slight_smile:


(𝕎) #1026

Thank you for your work on the courses!
I see that the example phrase is now fixed, but the 「サ」 in the word by itself is still without dakuten, at least for me.

I have by the way noticed the same bug as another user was having: [Site Feedback] Japanese 3 level 17 peace offering is broken

The only difference for me is that “Peace Offering” is chapter 15, instead of 17.


(Jklingen9290) #1027

@KanaTsumoto
There is a mistranslation in the American English Japanese 3 Lesson 16: It should be “Maria weights 60 kilograms” instead of “she”


(Jklingen9290) #1028

@KanaTsumoto
In Japanese 3 for American English speakers, lesson 18 has the vocabulary words 科学 - chemistry / science.

I believe those are different kanji: 化学 / 科学


(Kristoferjanke) #1029

In Japanese 5, Lesson 17, がっかりしました is “is disappointed” and 驚きました is “is surprised,” but if I’m not mistaken isn’t ~ました a past-tense conjugation? Why are these then in present-tense in English?


(𝕎) #1030

I am far from an expert in Japanese, so I might be utterly wrong about this, but the way I see it, the ~ました fulfills the same kind of past tense function as the “-ed” suffix in both “surprised” and “dissapointed”. As I said, I might be completely wrong, in which case I apologise.


(Kana) #1031

Thank you for your question:)
Both 「がっかりしました」and 「驚きました」 can be used for both current and past feelings, and as @www42www described, the ました here is focusing more on the fact that this feeling was brought about as a result of something else (that happened in the past at this point.)

In turn, 「がっかりします」 and 「驚きます」 acts more like a future tense or like “get disappointed” or “get surprised”.

But it’s a good point that it is not clear in the course when this feeling is happening. To talk specifically about how you are surprised NOW, you would say 「驚いています」. I will remember these for our future courses. Thank you for your question and feedback.


(Kana) #1032

Thank you for flagging these. They are now fixed, and if you log out and log in again, you should be able to see the changes.


(Kristoferjanke) #1033

My Japanese 3 just decided to un-complete itself. It used to be fully completed, but now it says “639/640 learned.” However, when I check there are no ignored words, no un-learnt words, and when I try to go to “Learn new words,” it throws an error. This is similar to my Japanese 0, which as been stuck at 205/207 since I finished it.


(Slender4) #1034

In Japanese 3 level 6
The following phrase only provides as います in the selections, and then marks that as correct
わたしはげんきんをもっていません


(Digicrest) #1035

Are these courses generally considered good and worth going through?

Right now I’m only using Memrise to learn/revise Genki 1 (eventually Genki 2) kanji/vocab and Tae Kim’s to try and learn some of the grammar / different word forms (like ではありません vs じゃありません vs じゃない ).

Do these courses offer anything those 2 don’t?
These courses have the native speaker clips right?


(Jklingen9290) #1036

@KanaTsumoto
In Japanese 3 for American English speakers, lesson 19, ききます has the kanji 聴きます. I see on jisho.org that that is an alternative form of 聞きます. My understanding is that the latter is more standard but I don’t know for sure. Maybe this is one of the cases where a semicolon and two kanji is appropriate. Please let me know which is commonly used. Thanks!

Edit: Actually I have the same question for 見ます vs 観ます (the latter is given, but the former has already been a vocab word in 見て so maybe that was intentional). That’s the same lesson as the first question.


(Jklingen9290) #1037

@KanaTsumoto @MemriseSupport

I just got an update on Memrise and it seems like some of the issues I was having with the distractors algorithm may have been addressed. I’m not sure, because I’m definitely still having the issue with kanji in Speed Practice mode. It’s always the same 3 distractors. It makes the review nearly pointless. I can easily pass vocab that I don’t know very well, and it specifically affect Kanji which are the hardest to learn and distinguish. I’ll link my original post as a reference. EDIT: Here’s another example of pretty useless distractors:


If the prompt is a sentence, all the distractors should be as well.

Additionally, I have two requests regarding the input method for Japanese. It would be better if the provided characters for input were scrambled from instance to instance. As it is, you can pretty mush memorize the layout of the kanji on the provided keyboard and not remember the kanji themselves. This is especially important on compound kanji where you need to remember the order. Having more distractors in the keyboard would be nice as well. It would also be nice to be able to turn off the provided keyboard, so that I can force myself to learn to type in Japanese.

The most recent update made timed practice significantly less challenging. I would appreciate being able to choose my difficulty level. Some users might just want to play a moderately challenging game, but as a paying user, I would like to actually to learn to differentiate the kanji.

Thanks for considering.


(Kristoferjanke) #1038

In Japanese 5, Number 17, for “私たちは田舎の村に行きました,” is there any particular reason it’s “私たち” with the hiragana instead of “私達” with the kanji? The previous one, “私達は素敵な海のそばのホテルを選びました,” used the kanji.